Comments on: Ideological amplification viruses (or the year the beat took over) http://www.lo-la.co.uk/2008/12/20/ideological-amplification-viruses-or-the-year-the-beat-took-over/ Laurent Fintoni's online portfolio and blog... music, travels, life Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:00:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Laurent http://www.lo-la.co.uk/2008/12/20/ideological-amplification-viruses-or-the-year-the-beat-took-over/comment-page-1/#comment-4862 Laurent Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:46:03 +0000 http://www.lo-la.co.uk/?p=522#comment-4862 Cheers bro, glad you like it. Follow up coming soon when I get some time. Cheers bro, glad you like it. Follow up coming soon when I get some time.

]]> By: Newton http://www.lo-la.co.uk/2008/12/20/ideological-amplification-viruses-or-the-year-the-beat-took-over/comment-page-1/#comment-4861 Newton Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:29:37 +0000 http://www.lo-la.co.uk/?p=522#comment-4861 Haven't seen this article before. You wrote everything I wanted to say about what happened past year in instrumental hip-hop. This sould be read by any followers and fans of this music. Cheers from Paris. Newton @ HipHopCore.net Haven’t seen this article before. You wrote everything I wanted to say about what happened past year in instrumental hip-hop. This sould be read by any followers and fans of this music.

Cheers from Paris.

Newton @ HipHopCore.net

]]> By: Laurent http://www.lo-la.co.uk/2008/12/20/ideological-amplification-viruses-or-the-year-the-beat-took-over/comment-page-1/#comment-4577 Laurent Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:44:01 +0000 http://www.lo-la.co.uk/?p=522#comment-4577 Hey Jimmy, yeah you're pretty spot on about the swing in the beat and how it's all converging. I think that in a way I've strayed from talking about that element too much purely because it's one of the things that led to the rise of the term wonky, first as a descriptive adjective for it and now a quasi genre term. Consciously or not i've stayed away from it, but I agree with you and it's definitely a key element of why this new era of beats is so appealing to me. Another element that I find quite interesting is how the bass is being reappropriated by a lot of these hip hop producers too, and that's something that has come directly from the electronic and dub influences. A lot of them are moving away from the typical bass/drum axis that has been prevalent in hip hop for a long time (like what you find in the productions from the classic era or even the more recent timbaland/neptunes club beats), and as a result we're hearing some very interesting combinations between the loose, unquantized drums/percussion and full on bass. Madlib's been doing that for a while so it's not new but definitely becoming more pronounced among certain producers. I especially like your reference to the 'human in the machine'. got me thinking! Might have to let it simmer in my mind over the hols and get to it when I'm back. Nice one Lo Hey Jimmy, yeah you’re pretty spot on about the swing in the beat and how it’s all converging. I think that in a way I’ve strayed from talking about that element too much purely because it’s one of the things that led to the rise of the term wonky, first as a descriptive adjective for it and now a quasi genre term. Consciously or not i’ve stayed away from it, but I agree with you and it’s definitely a key element of why this new era of beats is so appealing to me.

Another element that I find quite interesting is how the bass is being reappropriated by a lot of these hip hop producers too, and that’s something that has come directly from the electronic and dub influences. A lot of them are moving away from the typical bass/drum axis that has been prevalent in hip hop for a long time (like what you find in the productions from the classic era or even the more recent timbaland/neptunes club beats), and as a result we’re hearing some very interesting combinations between the loose, unquantized drums/percussion and full on bass. Madlib’s been doing that for a while so it’s not new but definitely becoming more pronounced among certain producers.

I especially like your reference to the ‘human in the machine’. got me thinking! Might have to let it simmer in my mind over the hols and get to it when I’m back.

Nice one
Lo

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.lo-la.co.uk/2008/12/20/ideological-amplification-viruses-or-the-year-the-beat-took-over/comment-page-1/#comment-4574 Jimmy Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:04:05 +0000 http://www.lo-la.co.uk/?p=522#comment-4574 The interesting and fresh thing about pretty much all this music you refer to, for me at least, is not just the beat, but the swung, looseness of the beat. This is key not to just dubstep (Burial rejects sequencers because of their tight quantisation), but also to 2-step (and now 'funky'). Some swing more than others, but there is a definite lineage linking the loose, sparsness of dub, the shuffling amens of jungle, through to dubstep and garage, which I guess has been paralled in hip-hop to an extent too, and which now seems looser than most. It's almost like a reinstatement of the (wonky) human in the machine, and at this point in time seems to be the point at which several genres converge, slinging it lower than before. The interesting and fresh thing about pretty much all this music you refer to, for me at least, is not just the beat, but the swung, looseness of the beat. This is key not to just dubstep (Burial rejects sequencers because of their tight quantisation), but also to 2-step (and now ‘funky’). Some swing more than others, but there is a definite lineage linking the loose, sparsness of dub, the shuffling amens of jungle, through to dubstep and garage, which I guess has been paralled in hip-hop to an extent too, and which now seems looser than most. It’s almost like a reinstatement of the (wonky) human in the machine, and at this point in time seems to be the point at which several genres converge, slinging it lower than before.

]]> By: Laurent http://www.lo-la.co.uk/2008/12/20/ideological-amplification-viruses-or-the-year-the-beat-took-over/comment-page-1/#comment-4559 Laurent Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:19:24 +0000 http://www.lo-la.co.uk/?p=522#comment-4559 Hey Olan, we've already spoken! im the same Laurent who does the reviews for Serie B and ATM and the Rhythm Incursions shows :) Thanks for the support this year with promos and tings, much appreciated. Finishing the Rhythm Incursions end of year podcast tonight, will email you tomorrow as it's got one of the All City releases in it. big up! Lo Hey Olan,
we’ve already spoken! im the same Laurent who does the reviews for Serie B and ATM and the Rhythm Incursions shows :)
Thanks for the support this year with promos and tings, much appreciated. Finishing the Rhythm Incursions end of year podcast tonight, will email you tomorrow as it’s got one of the All City releases in it.
big up!
Lo

]]> By: olan http://www.lo-la.co.uk/2008/12/20/ideological-amplification-viruses-or-the-year-the-beat-took-over/comment-page-1/#comment-4557 olan Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:45:15 +0000 http://www.lo-la.co.uk/?p=522#comment-4557 hey ..cool article man! hit me up with your email if you want me to keep you uptodate with mp3s etc hey ..cool article man! hit me up with your email if you want me to keep you uptodate with mp3s etc

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